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		<description>[...] first purchase was a toy gun for my son.  (Yes, yes&#8230; Its already been established that I have questionable parenting skills &#8211; and I...)  A beautiful replica of an Ottoman Empire Blunderbuss with a mother of pearl inlay seemed like a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark I LaRosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark I LaRosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are a rare breed of salespeople that value things like equity in exchange for sales, but its not typical - and it would be more focused on the high-end VP of sales type.  The big issue is that a salesperson might only make $40,000 / year - but he/she actually expects to make $150,000 or more based on performance.  What you can&#039;t do, it expect that person to make $40,000 and then equity because they just won&#039;t be able to live on it easily and the competing offers out there that will make them actual cash will be too tempting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem with the criticism of this post is the fact that they are pointing out a major difference in the compensation structures and motivation of the general workforce and salespeople.  Dan&#039;s video talked about how financial incentives narrowed the thinking of the creative people.  This is the whole point of sales compensation plans.  You want to channel the efforts and activities of the salespeople to drive the business results of the company - and you are willing to pay for it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think you can get somewhat creative with a compensation plan that provides non cash incentives (i.e. equity, trips, etc) but I don&#039;t think that these will work in the long term - unless you are prepared to pay a much larger base salary than normal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I actually think that the confusion over this post is enlightening as to why many non-sales management can&#039;t provide the correct incentives to a sales team.  They think we are like the rest of the work force, and we aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>There are a rare breed of salespeople that value things like equity in exchange for sales, but its not typical &#8211; and it would be more focused on the high-end VP of sales type.  The big issue is that a salesperson might only make $40,000 / year &#8211; but he/she actually expects to make $150,000 or more based on performance.  What you can&#39;t do, it expect that person to make $40,000 and then equity because they just won&#39;t be able to live on it easily and the competing offers out there that will make them actual cash will be too tempting.</p>
<p>The problem with the criticism of this post is the fact that they are pointing out a major difference in the compensation structures and motivation of the general workforce and salespeople.  Dan&#39;s video talked about how financial incentives narrowed the thinking of the creative people.  This is the whole point of sales compensation plans.  You want to channel the efforts and activities of the salespeople to drive the business results of the company &#8211; and you are willing to pay for it.</p>
<p>I think you can get somewhat creative with a compensation plan that provides non cash incentives (i.e. equity, trips, etc) but I don&#39;t think that these will work in the long term &#8211; unless you are prepared to pay a much larger base salary than normal.</p>
<p>I actually think that the confusion over this post is enlightening as to why many non-sales management can&#39;t provide the correct incentives to a sales team.  They think we are like the rest of the work force, and we aren&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark I LaRosa</title>
		<link>http://quotacrush.com/2009/10/09/sales-lessons-from-a-6-year-old-its-all-about-the-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark I LaRosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are a rare breed of salespeople that value things like equity in exchange for sales, but its not typical - and it would be more focused on the high-end VP of sales type.  The big issue is that a salesperson might only make $40,000 / year - but he/she actually expects to make $150,000 or more based on performance.  What you can&#039;t do, it expect that person to make $40,000 and then equity because they just won&#039;t be able to live on it easily and the competing offers out there that will make them actual cash will be too tempting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem with the criticism of this post is the fact that they are pointing out a major difference in the compensation structures and motivation of the general workforce and salespeople.  Dan&#039;s video talked about how financial incentives narrowed the thinking of the creative people.  This is the whole point of sales compensation plans.  You want to channel the efforts and activities of the salespeople to drive the business results of the company - and you are willing to pay for it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think you can get somewhat creative with a compensation plan that provides non cash incentives (i.e. equity, trips, etc) but I don&#039;t think that these will work in the long term - unless you are prepared to pay a much larger base salary than normal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I actually think that the confusion over this post is enlightening as to why many non-sales management can&#039;t provide the correct incentives to a sales team.  They think we are like the rest of the work force, and we aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>There are a rare breed of salespeople that value things like equity in exchange for sales, but its not typical &#8211; and it would be more focused on the high-end VP of sales type.  The big issue is that a salesperson might only make $40,000 / year &#8211; but he/she actually expects to make $150,000 or more based on performance.  What you can&#39;t do, it expect that person to make $40,000 and then equity because they just won&#39;t be able to live on it easily and the competing offers out there that will make them actual cash will be too tempting.</p>
<p>The problem with the criticism of this post is the fact that they are pointing out a major difference in the compensation structures and motivation of the general workforce and salespeople.  Dan&#39;s video talked about how financial incentives narrowed the thinking of the creative people.  This is the whole point of sales compensation plans.  You want to channel the efforts and activities of the salespeople to drive the business results of the company &#8211; and you are willing to pay for it.</p>
<p>I think you can get somewhat creative with a compensation plan that provides non cash incentives (i.e. equity, trips, etc) but I don&#39;t think that these will work in the long term &#8211; unless you are prepared to pay a much larger base salary than normal.</p>
<p>I actually think that the confusion over this post is enlightening as to why many non-sales management can&#39;t provide the correct incentives to a sales team.  They think we are like the rest of the work force, and we aren&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark I LaRosa</title>
		<link>http://quotacrush.com/2009/10/09/sales-lessons-from-a-6-year-old-its-all-about-the-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark I LaRosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are a rare breed of salespeople that value things like equity in exchange for sales, but its not typical - and it would be more focused on the high-end VP of sales type.  The big issue is that a salesperson might only make $40,000 / year - but he/she actually expects to make $150,000 or more based on performance.  What you can&#039;t do, it expect that person to make $40,000 and then equity because they just won&#039;t be able to live on it easily and the competing offers out there that will make them actual cash will be too tempting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The problem with the criticism of this post is the fact that they are pointing out a major difference in the compensation structures and motivation of the general workforce and salespeople.  Dan&#039;s video talked about how financial incentives narrowed the thinking of the creative people.  This is the whole point of sales compensation plans.  You want to channel the efforts and activities of the salespeople to drive the business results of the company - and you are willing to pay for it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think you can get somewhat creative with a compensation plan that provides non cash incentives (i.e. equity, trips, etc) but I don&#039;t think that these will work in the long term - unless you are prepared to pay a much larger base salary than normal.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I actually think that the confusion over this post is enlightening as to why many non-sales management can&#039;t provide the correct incentives to a sales team.  They think we are like the rest of the work force, and we aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>There are a rare breed of salespeople that value things like equity in exchange for sales, but its not typical &#8211; and it would be more focused on the high-end VP of sales type.  The big issue is that a salesperson might only make $40,000 / year &#8211; but he/she actually expects to make $150,000 or more based on performance.  What you can&#39;t do, it expect that person to make $40,000 and then equity because they just won&#39;t be able to live on it easily and the competing offers out there that will make them actual cash will be too tempting.</p>
<p>The problem with the criticism of this post is the fact that they are pointing out a major difference in the compensation structures and motivation of the general workforce and salespeople.  Dan&#39;s video talked about how financial incentives narrowed the thinking of the creative people.  This is the whole point of sales compensation plans.  You want to channel the efforts and activities of the salespeople to drive the business results of the company &#8211; and you are willing to pay for it.</p>
<p>I think you can get somewhat creative with a compensation plan that provides non cash incentives (i.e. equity, trips, etc) but I don&#39;t think that these will work in the long term &#8211; unless you are prepared to pay a much larger base salary than normal.</p>
<p>I actually think that the confusion over this post is enlightening as to why many non-sales management can&#39;t provide the correct incentives to a sales team.  They think we are like the rest of the work force, and we aren&#39;t.</p>
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		<title>By: John Gannon</title>
		<link>http://quotacrush.com/2009/10/09/sales-lessons-from-a-6-year-old-its-all-about-the-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 03:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark -- nice post.  Just curious, have you seen any examples of  long term successful sales comp plans that were not commission based?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8212; nice post.  Just curious, have you seen any examples of  long term successful sales comp plans that were not commission based?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark I LaRosa</title>
		<link>http://quotacrush.com/2009/10/09/sales-lessons-from-a-6-year-old-its-all-about-the-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark I LaRosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I I don&#039;t necessarily disagree, but the point was about salespeople - who ARE motivated by financial incentives and SHOULD be motivated by financial incentives.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can criticize my parenting for sure - but I claim to be an expert sales guy - not an expert parent! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this talk, Dan says that when you put certain incentives on - you narrow the focus of thinking. EXACTLY!! You WANT to focus the salespersons thinking and have them focused on MONEY. Both for themselves and the company.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Salespeople are not like the rest of you. If you want to motivate a salesteam, you need to re-do all of these tests with only salespeople.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I was presented with the candle problem, I&#039;d sell the candle and use the money to buy a dripless candle!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sales people are NOT NORMAL!!  We operate on a different frequency. Sometimes 100% of what we do is based on financial rewards.  True - may not work for most people - and maybe I&#039;m screwing up my son (although I think he is a future salesguy), but I stand by my position that the right financial rewards drive sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I I don&#39;t necessarily disagree, but the point was about salespeople &#8211; who ARE motivated by financial incentives and SHOULD be motivated by financial incentives.</p>
<p>You can criticize my parenting for sure &#8211; but I claim to be an expert sales guy &#8211; not an expert parent! </p>
<p>In this talk, Dan says that when you put certain incentives on &#8211; you narrow the focus of thinking. EXACTLY!! You WANT to focus the salespersons thinking and have them focused on MONEY. Both for themselves and the company.</p>
<p>Salespeople are not like the rest of you. If you want to motivate a salesteam, you need to re-do all of these tests with only salespeople.</p>
<p>If I was presented with the candle problem, I&#39;d sell the candle and use the money to buy a dripless candle!</p>
<p>Sales people are NOT NORMAL!!  We operate on a different frequency. Sometimes 100% of what we do is based on financial rewards.  True &#8211; may not work for most people &#8211; and maybe I&#39;m screwing up my son (although I think he is a future salesguy), but I stand by my position that the right financial rewards drive sales.</p>
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		<title>By: John Gannon</title>
		<link>http://quotacrush.com/2009/10/09/sales-lessons-from-a-6-year-old-its-all-about-the-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>John Gannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark -- nice post.  Just curious, have you seen any examples of  long term successful sales comp plans that were not commission based?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark &#8212; nice post.  Just curious, have you seen any examples of  long term successful sales comp plans that were not commission based?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Tenner</title>
		<link>http://quotacrush.com/2009/10/09/sales-lessons-from-a-6-year-old-its-all-about-the-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Tenner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bad, bad idea, as pointed out in the linked TED video, and in the comments here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=872066&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=872066&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bad, bad idea, as pointed out in the linked TED video, and in the comments here: <a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=872066" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=872066</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://quotacrush.com/2009/10/09/sales-lessons-from-a-6-year-old-its-all-about-the-cash/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/dan_pink_on_motivation.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/dan_pink_on_m...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/dan_pink_on_motivation.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/dan_pink_on_m" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/dan_pink_on_m</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark I LaRosa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark I LaRosa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t necessarily disagree, but the point was about salespeople - who ARE motivated by financial incentives and SHOULD be motivated by financial incentives.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can criticize my parenting for sure - but I claim to be an expert sales guy - not an expert parent! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this talk, Dan says that when you put certain incentives on - you narrow the focus of thinking.  EXACTLY!!  You WANT to focus the salespersons thinking and have them focused on MONEY.  Both for themselves and the company.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Salespeople are not like the rest of you.  If you want to motivate a salesteam, you need to re-do all of these tests with only salespeople.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I was presented with the candle problem, I&#039;d sell the candle and use the money to buy a dripless candle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#39;t necessarily disagree, but the point was about salespeople &#8211; who ARE motivated by financial incentives and SHOULD be motivated by financial incentives.</p>
<p>You can criticize my parenting for sure &#8211; but I claim to be an expert sales guy &#8211; not an expert parent! </p>
<p>In this talk, Dan says that when you put certain incentives on &#8211; you narrow the focus of thinking.  EXACTLY!!  You WANT to focus the salespersons thinking and have them focused on MONEY.  Both for themselves and the company.</p>
<p>Salespeople are not like the rest of you.  If you want to motivate a salesteam, you need to re-do all of these tests with only salespeople.</p>
<p>If I was presented with the candle problem, I&#39;d sell the candle and use the money to buy a dripless candle!</p>
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